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Church And State by Its-An-Inferno Church And State by Its-An-Inferno
American was not founded on Christianity. That it simply a face and I do not say that to cause dissent. No, I am not a monotheist but I obviously have plenty of friends from various religions who would also agree. Church matters should stay within the church, government matters should stay within the government. 

We need to move beyond the days of making laws based on The Bible or any other holy book if we truly want to be a free country. Slavery, segregation, laws against interracial marriage, laws against homosexual marriage, and laws against women voting were all supported by various individuals and members of the court using religion as justification. That is not okay.

America is truly diverse and we have people with all different types of beliefs. The more open-minded we are to one another the more this country will thrive. I could argue on the topic day in and day out. Everyone is better off respecting each other's differences and keeping themselves informed. Knowledge is the true power.

“I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.” -George Carlin

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DragonKing24 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2017
And yet it adopted many of Christianity's values like it or not
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Its-An-Inferno Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2017  Student General Artist
Not just Christianity. Tenants such as the ten commandments can be found in various cultures and beliefs. Being inspired by them doesn't upset me I just feel that one dogma shouldn't rule law.
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DragonKing24 Featured By Owner Edited Jan 22, 2017
sorry but I disagree even though yes church and state separated but it still dosent excuse the fact America has the majority of Christian principles and for sure they don't have Islam tennents. The other cultures and beliefs weren't even around in America other than Christian related religions and Judaism and sure disagree with me but my beliefs still stand and if you wanna think your beliefs that's ok.
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TheDiscoTurkey Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I am Christian and I agree with it.
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supersonicfandx Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
me too but i thought ti was already seperated
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TheDiscoTurkey Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah. It is separated de facto,but (especially in the case of Italy,my country) the state is still influenced by the church.
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supersonicfandx Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
oh ... oh my that is pretty bad
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Green-Tea-Flower Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2016  Student General Artist
Any American/Canadian/Brit/Australian who disagrees with Separation of Church and State is free to move to the Middle East!
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owen4402 Featured By Owner May 29, 2016
another high five to you
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Sleepstar Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Exactly. Secular states allow anyone to join their Parliaments and join it's Upper House. Where I live if you are a Buddhist you can't even take your seat in the Upper House. It's because the Elite figures are all of the Established Church, and if it comes to a Revolution they would get their billions and flee to another tax haven, thus denying the ordinary citizens a chance to rebuild (Note: I have nothing against Businesspeople if they have started with nothing and worked hard, it's the Politicians this is talking about.) Britain is gradually heading towards a secular state, but I am sure that one day, religion and politics are separated. Although the U.S may have their extreme bible-bashors at the end of the day anything they put forward to in Congress will be thrown out. That's why I prefer a secular state. 
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glovannas Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2016  Student Digital Artist
I totally agree.
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magshi Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Hold up, since when was evolution REMOVED from schools? Last i checked, evolutionary biology is STILL TAUGHT and is STILL VERY MUCH a part of the curriculum.
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magshi Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I completely agree with us. After all, have the middle eastern countries taught us nothing about why allowing church and state to mage is a bad thing?
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TheDarkHeretic Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2015
Totally agree with that, nice stamp and description :) Clap !
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2015
Jesus said to them, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.” -- Mark 12:17

If that doesn't say "keep church and state away from each other" I don't know what does. 
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DancesWithHellhounds Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Yippee! I love this stamp.
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EtoileArt Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I TOTALLY AGREE!
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As a Catholic, I agree 100%. After all, Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world". A professor of mine also said once that separation of Church and state exists to protect the Church. If you think about it, theocracies do more harm than good to a religion because they take away its original purpose, which is supposed to meet people's spiritual needs, and turn it into something institutional. Just look at Saudi Arabia. I'm pretty sure that a lot of Muslims probably don't support the type of government there. 
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megascops Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2015
I'm Catholic too and I was just about to say this, but you said it better. God bless! :D
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:iconanonymousrabbitlover:
Thanks. :) I'm glad you agree.
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EmmieyCathiey Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2015
I'm a Methodist and I believe this. When ever government mixes with anything, government tends to fuck it up
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MS-D0S Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2015
Americans, you are so far behind the times it isn't funny!
Here in Quebec the church separated long time ago! They don't control our schools or hospitals anymore! 
All their schools are private now, so you can go to public school and not be interrupted with religion.
Quebec is the best place ever!! Pikachu-lol 
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PeteSeeger Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Student Writer
You're still Canada's bitch.
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Astrall99 Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
That's a bad thing because....?
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:iconpeteseeger:
PeteSeeger Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2016  Student Writer
Yes.
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Astrall99 Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Give me a reason why.
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:iconpeteseeger:
PeteSeeger Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2016  Student Writer
Because they willingly make themselves subservient to the Anglo-Canadian government.
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Astrall99 Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Which is bad because...?
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:iconpeteseeger:
PeteSeeger Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2016  Student Writer
Because they allow their culture to be domianted and suppressed by another.
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MS-D0S Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015
And you're still a mean person who says bad words =P (Razz) 
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:iconpeteseeger:
PeteSeeger Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Student Writer
Mean or not I'm honest.
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MS-D0S Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015
Not listening :P
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:iconpeteseeger:
PeteSeeger Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Student Writer
Your sort seldom do.
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MS-D0S Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015
Okay whatever I don't trust people with black and white photos of guys playing guitars anyways
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PeteSeeger Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Student Writer
1) It's a banjo.
2) Why?
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ImperialFrance Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2015
France separated its government from the church. We are good since then. *look elsewhere.*
I mean. When you see religious beliefs dictating what should be taught to children in school and what shouldn't be, then you know there's a problem. I don't have anything against Creationists... Except their foul mouth. The simple facts Creationists keep "proving" they are right just state they are not feeling right.
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Cobra50A Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Christians, sit the fuck down and let me explain:

Us making you keep religion to yourself isn't oppressing you. You're on an equal playing field as everyone else, you're just like everyone else, fuckers. Get that though your head!
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Myredhulk Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014
I thought.... it already was.... wasn't it...?
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BlueWolf007 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2014
Plus just look at the red states- abortion clinics are shut down left and right because Bible thumpers don't attitude of women having control over their own bodies or reproductive organs.
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Italy-Chibitalia Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2014
no... I heard that in my school, in a certain English class(that I hope I don't take), they make you real the Bible.
If I was in the class I'd ask why, and rebel against reading it. It's against what I stand for. I'm not religious, I'm atheist. In all honestly, I would find it wrong to be forced to read a book I don't want to read because it doesn't apply to me. Also, not everyone in my school's religious. It just doesn't make sense.
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SherbertTCat Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked: Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice ? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.", George Washington 1796
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VonRabenherz Featured By Owner Edited Mar 6, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Just goes to show that anyone can be wrong, even Washington.
Look at places like Scandinavia, where you'll have some of the least religious countries in the world, which also happen to have some of the lowest crime rates in the world. Seems to me like morality can be maintained without religion after all, eh?
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PeteSeeger Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Student Writer
They also have some of the most xenophobic right-wing political parties in the world. More importantly, they actually get elected into the legislature.
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VonRabenherz Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
And that is relevant to my point ... how?
Stop attacking your cute little strawmen.
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PeteSeeger Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2015  Student Writer
As much good in Scandinavia there si equally bad. And wat the fuck do strawmen have to do with this?
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VonRabenherz Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
It's completely unrelated.
And you don't know what a strawman argument is?
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PeteSeeger Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2015  Student Writer
You make out Scandinavia to be a paradise because of it's people's godlessness, when it is quite far from it.
I know what it is, I just don't see how I presented a strawman argument.
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VonRabenherz Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
You should stop trying to interpret things into my statements and instead read what is actually said.
What I said was that morality can indeed exist without religion, contrary to what Washington claimed, and that Scandinavia is a good examnple of that. So is Germany, by the way, even though we're not quite as secular as the Norse yet (about 50-60% non-religious, if I recall the figures correctly).
The current political tendency demonstrated in election results is irrelevant to this, since they're always fairly temporary at best - not to mention that nationalist/conservative tendencies are not inherently "evil" (kinda weird coming from someone whom I presume is probably a republican voter, so you're supporting more or less the same thing ... ).

I'll explain to you how you presented a strawman argument: I made an argument and supported it. You barged in, didn't engage what I said in any way, instead came up with something completely unrelated and attacked that, presuming you "showed me". A classical strawman if I ever saw one.
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themutantlizard Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2014
i think church and state being seprate should be an immutable (unchangable) law and any attempt to change it would mean certain death.
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cas20 Featured By Owner May 14, 2014   Writer
Shoving religion down throats is stupid. And these people claim that Homosexuals are silencing them.
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